email from Wendy Abraham 29/11/2006 -
Wendy has received a message from "Barrie" a descendent of William & Eliza which puts in doubt the parenthood of William. The logic of of Barrie's research has made me change the link from William (b 1793 Midsomer Norton) and Ann (b 1798 Leigh on Mendip) to James"Hi Wendy
Thanks very much for your prompt reply and the other sources of information.
However I feel that you possibly have the wrong parents for William!
I''''ve seen that tree quoted on the ''''Ancestry World Tree Project''''
If you check the Burial register for Midsomer Norton No.1016 Sept 4th 1837 it records the burial of William Carpenter infant of Clapton ie. 4 days after the baptism of William and Ann''''s son. (Baptism No. 147)
The 1841 census for Clapton gives Wm Carpenter (1 month), Elizabeth Lane(20)- parents Francis and Ann.
James Carpenter farmer of Ston Easton married Elizabeth Lane, father Francis Lane, at MSN on 16th Feb 1841. William was baptised 6th June 1841 at MSN.
William Carpenter was buried at Radstock 5th August 1908 aged 68 years (Burial No. 452)
I may be wrong but it seems pretty conclusive.
With best wishes
Barrie "Notes for WILLIAM CARPENTER:
The 1861 Census - M Norton Parish - 4 - Res: Grocer's Shop - Piece 1680 - Folio 51 - Page 9 - Sch 31William Carpenter Head M 22 Grocer and Draper Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 21 Bruton
Francis Carpenter Brother U 16 General Assistant ChewtonThe 1881 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Harris's Vale - Piece 2404 - Folio 59 - Page 31
William Carpenter Head M 41 Ag Lab Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 42 Bruton
William Richard Carpenter Son 14 Labourer's Boy Midsomer Norton
Eliza Mary Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Radstock
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Radstock
surname came from Wendy ABRAHAM 29.11.2006
The 1861 Census - M Norton Parish - 4 - Res: Grocer's Shop - Piece 1680 - Folio 51 - Page 9 - Sch 31
William Carpenter Head M 22 Grocer and Draper Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 21 Bruton
Francis Carpenter Brother U 16 General Assistant ChewtonThe 1881 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Harris's Vale - Piece 2404 - Folio 59 - Page 31
William Carpenter Head M 41 Ag Lab Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 42 Bruton
William Richard Carpenter Son 14 Labourer's Boy Midsomer Norton
Eliza Mary Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Radstock
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Radstock
The 1881 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Harris's Vale - Piece 2404 - Folio 59 - Page 31
William Carpenter Head M 41 Ag Lab Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 42 Bruton
William Richard Carpenter Son 14 Labourer's Boy Midsomer Norton
Eliza Mary Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Radstock
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Radstock
The 1881 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Harris's Vale - Piece 2404 - Folio 59 - Page 31
William Carpenter Head M 41 Ag Lab Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 42 Bruton
William Richard Carpenter Son 14 Labourer's Boy Midsomer Norton
Eliza Mary Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Radstock
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Radstock
email from Wendy Abraham 29/11/2006 -
Wendy has received a message from "Barrie" a descendent of William & Eliza which puts in doubt the parenthood of William. The logic of of Barrie's research has made me change the link from William (b 1793 Midsomer Norton) and Ann (b 1798 Leigh on Mendip) to James"Hi Wendy
Thanks very much for your prompt reply and the other sources of information.
However I feel that you possibly have the wrong parents for William!
I''''ve seen that tree quoted on the ''''Ancestry World Tree Project''''
If you check the Burial register for Midsomer Norton No.1016 Sept 4th 1837 it records the burial of William Carpenter infant of Clapton ie. 4 days after the baptism of William and Ann''''s son. (Baptism No. 147)
The 1841 census for Clapton gives Wm Carpenter (1 month), Elizabeth Lane(20)- parents Francis and Ann.
James Carpenter farmer of Ston Easton married Elizabeth Lane, father Francis Lane, at MSN on 16th Feb 1841. William was baptised 6th June 1841 at MSN.
William Carpenter was buried at Radstock 5th August 1908 aged 68 years (Burial No. 452)
I may be wrong but it seems pretty conclusive.
With best wishes
Barrie "
email from Wendy Abrahams 29.11.2006
The 1881 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Harris's Vale - Piece 2404 - Folio 59 - Page 31
William Carpenter Head M 41 Ag Lab Clapton
Eliza Carpenter Wife M 42 Bruton
William Richard Carpenter Son 14 Labourer's Boy Midsomer Norton
Eliza Mary Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Radstock
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Radstock
details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library
The 1881 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 2429 - Folio 122 - Page 14
Ann Carpenter Head W 83 Annuitant Leigh On Mendip
Arabella Mears Gdaur 8 Chilcompton
The 1841 Census - Radstock Parish - 2 - Piece 948 - Folio 35 - Page 20
Simon Carpenter 40 Coal Miner Somerset
Dinah Carpenter 30 Somerset
William Carpenter 15 Coal Miner Somerset
James Carpenter 10 Coal Miner Somerset
Christian Carpenter 10 Somerset
John Carpenter 6 Somerset
Ann Carpenter 3 Somerset
Selina Carpenter 8mos SomersetThe 1851 Census - Radstock Parish - 5b - Res: Old Pit - Piece 1939 - Folio 492 - Page 39 - Schedule 136
Simon Carpenter Head M 54 Coal Miner MSN
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 45 Domestic MSN
William Carpenter Son U 24 Coal Miner Radstock
Christian Carpenter Daur 23 Servant Radstock
James Carpenter Son 20 Coal Miner Radstock
John Carpenter Son 16 Coal Miner Radstock
Ann Carpenter Daur 13 Scholar Radstock
Mary Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar Radstock
George Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Radstock
Fredrick Carpenter Son 4 Scholar RadstockThe 1881 Census - Radstock Parish - Res: Combe End - Piece 2429 - Folio 59 -Page 10
Simon Carpenter Head M 84 Coal Miner Midsomer Norton
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 74 F Midsomer Norton
Frederick Carpenter Son U 33 Coal Miner Radstock
The 1841 Census - Radstock Parish - 2 - Piece 948 - Folio 35 - Page 20
Simon Carpenter 40 Coal Miner Somerset
Dinah Carpenter 30 Somerset
William Carpenter 15 Coal Miner Somerset
James Carpenter 10 Coal Miner Somerset
Christian Carpenter 10 Somerset
John Carpenter 6 Somerset
Ann Carpenter 3 Somerset
Selina Carpenter 8mos SomersetThe 1851 Census - Radstock Parish - 5b - Res: Old Pit - Piece 1939 - Folio 492 - Page 39 - Schedule 136
Simon Carpenter Head M 54 Coal Miner MSN
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 45 Domestic MSN
William Carpenter Son U 24 Coal Miner Radstock
Christian Carpenter Daur 23 Servant Radstock
James Carpenter Son 20 Coal Miner Radstock
John Carpenter Son 16 Coal Miner Radstock
Ann Carpenter Daur 13 Scholar Radstock
Mary Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar Radstock
George Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Radstock
Fredrick Carpenter Son 4 Scholar RadstockThe 1881 Census - Radstock Parish - Res: Combe End - Piece 2429 - Folio 59 -Page 10
Simon Carpenter Head M 84 Coal Miner Midsomer Norton
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 74 Midsomer Norton
Frederick Carpenter Son U 33 Coal Miner Radstock
The 1841 Census - Radstock Parish - 2 - Piece 948 - Folio 35 - Page 20
Simon Carpenter 40 Coal Miner Somerset
Dinah Carpenter 30 Somerset
William Carpenter 15 Coal Miner Somerset
James Carpenter 10 Coal Miner Somerset
Christian Carpenter 10 Somerset
John Carpenter 6 Somerset
Ann Carpenter 3 Somerset
Selina Carpenter 8mos Somerset
The 1851 Census - Radstock Parish - 5b - Res: Old Pit - Piece 1939 - Folio 492 - Page 39 - Schedule 136
Simon Carpenter Head M 54 Coal Miner MSN
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 45 Domestic MSN
William Carpenter Son U 24 Coal Miner Radstock
Christian Carpenter Daur 23 Servant Radstock
James Carpenter Son 20 Coal Miner Radstock
John Carpenter Son 16 Coal Miner Radstock
Ann Carpenter Daur 13 Scholar Radstock
Mary Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar Radstock
George Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Radstock
Fredrick Carpenter Son 4 Scholar Radstock
The 1851 Census - Radstock Parish - 5b - Res: Old Pit - Piece 1939 - Folio 492 - Page 39 - Schedule 136
Simon Carpenter Head M 54 Coal Miner MSN
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 45 Domestic MSN
William Carpenter Son U 24 Coal Miner Radstock
Christian Carpenter Daur 23 Servant Radstock
James Carpenter Son 20 Coal Miner Radstock
John Carpenter Son 16 Coal Miner Radstock
Ann Carpenter Daur 13 Scholar Radstock
Mary Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar Radstock
George Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Radstock
Fredrick Carpenter Son 4 Scholar Radstock
The 1851 Census - Radstock Parish - 5b - Res: Old Pit - Piece 1939 - Folio 492 - Page 39 - Schedule 136
Simon Carpenter Head M 54 Coal Miner MSN
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 45 Domestic MSN
William Carpenter Son U 24 Coal Miner Radstock
Christian Carpenter Daur 23 Servant Radstock
James Carpenter Son 20 Coal Miner Radstock
John Carpenter Son 16 Coal Miner Radstock
Ann Carpenter Daur 13 Scholar Radstock
Mary Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar Radstock
George Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Radstock
Fredrick Carpenter Son 4 Scholar RadstockThe 1881 Census - Radstock Parish - Res: Combe End - Piece 2429 - Folio 59 -Page 10
Simon Carpenter Head M 84 Coal Miner Midsomer Norton
Dinah Carpenter Wife M 74 F Midsomer Norton
Frederick Carpenter Son U 33 Coal Miner Radstock
Notes from John R Carpenter - La Mesa, CA USA
This link is unproven and so is temporary.
Rachel was a witness at the marriage of William Maggs and Sarah Norman at the Midsomer Norton Parish Church on 9 January 1792.
The 1841 Census - Midsomer Norton Parish - 6 - Resident in Welton
Simon Carter 27 Coalminer Somerset
Christian Carter 16 Somerset
Rachel Carter 14 Somerset
John Carter 11 Coalminer Somerset
Ruth Carter 6 Somerset
Felix Carter 5 Somerset
Ann Carter 4 Somerset
Rachel Gay 88 SomersetNotes from John R Carpenter - La Mesa, CA USA
He has two Rachels in his notes
1 born 9 April 1754 Radstock, Somerset
1 born 7 Sept 1755 Radstock, Somerset
Pamela Dennison - GR - 5.9.2008
known as: Betty
occupation: seamstress