"Andrew" brother in law of Sarah FRATER (nee Manson) registered her death.
email from Greg McKie 20.3.2007
Andrew (jnr) was a ‘forester’1891 census
37 1891 FRATER ANDREW M 60 668/0 009/000 1831
55 1891 FRATER ANN F 52 668/0 009/000 1839
52 1891 FRATER ANDREW M 23 668/0 009/000 1868
3 1891 FRATER ADAM M 14 668/0 009/000 1877
87 1891 FRATER CATHERINE F 14 668/0 009/000 1877
358 1891 FRATER LIZZIE F 11 668/0 009/000 1880
50 1891 FRATER ANDREW M 4 668/0 009/000 1887
350 1891 FRATER JOHN M M 3 668/0 009/000 1888
email from Greg McKie 20.3.2007
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John was a ‘blacksmith’An unknown daughter married Thomas McConnachie before 1850. Thomas is buried with the family and his grandson has ‘Manson’ as his middle name.
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Margaret was a ‘domestic servant’ - she was living by herself in Monkton in 1851 and 1861.
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Jane never married and was living as a ‘boarder’ in Monkton in 1881
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William a ‘mate’ in the Royal Navy
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John (snr) was a ‘stone dresser’.
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added from email from Greg McKie 5.8.2008
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George was a ‘chief engineer’ in the Royal Navy.
email from Philip FRATER
On William Oliver's son Ronald Leonard Frater birth cert. William's occupation was second hand wardrobe dealer.
William O was a very colourful man and quite a gambler. At one time he had a flourist shop but gambled it away.
WIlliam & Nellie had 9 children and Philip confirmed 4 of them Gladys, Maisie, Fred & Sid as well as his own father Ronald.Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
document from Sheila Saunders shows that William was known as Tom
Notes from KF
A William Frater has been found in:
Post Office London County Suburbs Directory, 1908. [Part 1: Street, Commercial, & Trades Directories]
Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park (N), [Islington] Fonthill Road, Seven Sisters Road to Stroud Green Road
2. Frater, Wm House decorator
Also on page 471 at 2 Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park, LondonAccording to the 1881 census there is only one William FRATER born about 1874 and he is this one
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonGiven the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in IslingtonSurname taken from Free BMD marriage pages. Only 1 William & Ada married in Islington in this time frame.
Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London