Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.
Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos KilmersdonFrom Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in county1851 census from Phil Clements
The 1851 Census - Stowey Parish - Res: Knighton Sutton - Piece 1938 - Folio 145 - Page 2 - Schedule 7
Robert Lyde Head M 50 Farmer 136 acres Stowey
Elizabeth Lyde Wife M 40 Litton
William Lyde Son 12 Scholar at home Litton
Mary Jane Lyde Daur 2 Litton
John Lyde Brother M 62 Carpenter Litton
Ann Carpenter Servant 16 East Harptree1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Was there a twin with William Frederick V Vranch also born Q Dec 1874? Or is he related?
In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton
From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.
From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.
1841 census
East Harptree District 2 Somerset
HO 107/967/13
Church Lane
George BARWELL 80 Pauper Born in County
Ann BARWELL 80 - Born in County
Hannah Barwell 40 - Born in County
Joseph Barwell 12 - Born in CountyInitial searches cannot find Joseph in the 1851 census. Hannah BARWELL is found in East Harptree but living (aged 50) on her own.
In the 1861 census there is a Hannah BARWELL in the next schedule. Based on the 1841 census we can presume is Joseph's mother.
1861 census
Harptree District 5e East Harptree Somerset
RG9/1677 Page 19
Schedule 98 Zion Place
Joseph Barwell Head M 31 Agricultural Labourer East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah Barwell Wife M 22 - East Harptree, Somerset
Schedule 99 Zion Place
Hannah Barwell Head S 61 Pauper East Harptree, Somerset
Mary Silcox Neice S 41 - East Harptree, Somerset1871 census
Cameley District 8c Somerset
RG10/2467 Page 1
Schedule 87 Temple Cloud
Joseph Barwell Head M 41 Gardener East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah Barwell Wife M 31 Dressmaker East Harptree, Somerset1881 census
St Florence, Pembroke, Wales
PRO RG11 5408/60 Page 10
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph BARWELL Head M Male 49 East Harptree, Somerset, England Gardener
Sarah BARWELL Wife M Female 39 East Harptree, Somerset, England1891 census
St Florence District 6 Pembrokeshire
RG12/4527 Page 5
Schedule 26 Cottage
Joseph BARWELL Head M 61 Gardener East Harptree, Somerset English
Sarah BARWELL Wife M 51 - East Harptree, Somerset English
Albert Joseph CARPENTER Nephew S 11 Scholar Treherbert, Glamorgan English1901 census
Wragby district 1 Lincolnshire
RG 13/3068 Page 6
Schedule 31 Bardney Road
Joseph Barwell Head M 71 Market Gardner Own account at home East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah BARWELL Wife M 61 - - East Harptree, Somerset
Albert J CARPENTER Nephew S 21 Gardner - Treherbert, Glamorgan
1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
building name difficult to read
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 25 born in county
John Carpenter 25 born in countyon the same page is a Sarah Carpenter living with the Miller family in Wallace Lane. Is this Sarah daur of Charles and Mary?
1851
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som1861 census
Harptree District 5e East Harptree Somerset
RG9/1677 Page 19
Schedule 98 Zion Place
Joseph Barwell Head M 31 Agricultural Labourer East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah Barwell Wife M 22 - East Harptree, Somerset
Schedule 99 Zion Place
Hannah Barwell Head S 61 Pauper East Harptree, Somerset
Mary Silcox Neice S 41 - East Harptree, Somerset1871 census
Cameley District 8c Somerset
RG10/2467 Page 1
Schedule 87 Temple Cloud
Joseph Barwell Head M 41 Gardener East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah Barwell Wife M 31 Dressmaker East Harptree, Somerset1881 census
St Florence, Pembroke, Wales
PRO RG11 5408/60 Page 10
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph BARWELL Head M Male 49 East Harptree, Somerset, England Gardener
Sarah BARWELL Wife M Female 39 East Harptree, Somerset, England1891 census
St Florence District 6 Pembrokeshire
RG12/4527 Page 5
Schedule 26 Cottage
Joseph BARWELL Head M 61 Gardener East Harptree, Somerset English
Sarah BARWELL Wife M 51 - East Harptree, Somerset English
Albert Joseph CARPENTER Nephew S 11 Scholar Treherbert, Glamorgan English1901 census
Wragby district 1 Lincolnshire
RG 13/3068 Page 6
Schedule 31 Bardney Road
Joseph Barwell Head M 71 Market Gardner Own account at home East Harptree, Somerset
Sarah BARWELL Wife M 61 - - East Harptree, Somerset
Albert J CARPENTER Nephew S 21 Gardner - Treherbert, GlamorganCharles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som
email from Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.
1901 census
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Disability Where Born
GALLOWAY, Frank Head Married M 28 1873 Coal Hewer Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Mary Wife Married F 24 1877 Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Ronald G Son M 5 1896 Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Hector F Son M 1 1900 Treherbert Glamorganshire
HIER, Elizabeth Mother-In-Law Married F 48 1853 Newport Monmouthshire
HIER, Annie Sister-In-Law Single F 17 1884 Treherbert Glamorganshire
HIER, David Brother-In-Law M 10 1891 Treherbert Glamorganshire
RG number: RG13 Piece: 5012 Folio: 64 Page: 36
Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Ystradyfodwg EnumerationDistrict: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: Treherbert Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Bulls Row, Ystradyfodwg County: Glamorganshire1911 Census
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GALLOWAY, Frank Head Married M 38 1873 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Mary Wife Married 17 years F 34 1877 Glam Deri
GALLOWAY, Ronald Son M 15 1896 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Hector Son M 11 1900 Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Archie Son M 8 1903 Glam Treherbert
HIER, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 60 1851 Mon Newport Mon
HIER, David Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Glam Treherbert
RG number: RG14 Piece: 32332 Reference: RG14PN32332 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED4 SN235
Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Rhondda EnumerationDistrict: 4 Parish: Rhondda Address: 56 Gwendoline Street Treherbert Rhondda County: Glamorganshire
1901 census
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Disability Where Born
GALLOWAY, Frank Head Married M 28 1873 Coal Hewer Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Mary Wife Married F 24 1877 Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Ronald G Son M 5 1896 Treherbert Glamorganshire
GALLOWAY, Hector F Son M 1 1900 Treherbert Glamorganshire
HIER, Elizabeth Mother-In-Law Married F 48 1853 Newport Monmouthshire
HIER, Annie Sister-In-Law Single F 17 1884 Treherbert Glamorganshire
HIER, David Brother-In-Law M 10 1891 Treherbert Glamorganshire
RG number: RG13 Piece: 5012 Folio: 64 Page: 36
Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Ystradyfodwg EnumerationDistrict: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: Treherbert Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Bulls Row, Ystradyfodwg County: Glamorganshire1911 Census
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GALLOWAY, Frank Head Married M 38 1873 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Mary Wife Married 17 years F 34 1877 Glam Deri
GALLOWAY, Ronald Son M 15 1896 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Hector Son M 11 1900 Glam Treherbert
GALLOWAY, Archie Son M 8 1903 Glam Treherbert
HIER, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 60 1851 Mon Newport Mon
HIER, David Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Hewer Glam Glam Treherbert
RG number: RG14 Piece: 32332 Reference: RG14PN32332 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED4 SN235
Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Rhondda EnumerationDistrict: 4 Parish: Rhondda Address: 56 Gwendoline Street Treherbert Rhondda County: Glamorganshire
Kilmersdon Christenings 1813-1838
http://kilmersdon-radstock.org.uk/kilsom/chr-b/id79.htm
Pg Ntry Date Name Surname Father Mother Abode Occupation Ceremony performed by
7 49 14/11/1813 James VRENCH Robert Elizabeth Coleford 1st Royals Danl Drape,CurateThis shows that Robert was in the "1st Royals" regiment
The 1851 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 1939 - Folio 307 - Page 31 - Schedule 104
Elizabeth Vranch Head W 54 Kilmersdon
George Vranch Son U 33 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Mary Ann Vranch Daur U 25 MSN
Alfred Vranch Son U 17 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Eliza Vranch Daur 13 MSN
Betty Ann Vranch Daur 11 Monmouthshire
Isaac Beryman Lodger M 23 Coal Miner Mells
Mercy Beryman Wife M 21 MSN
John Beryman Son 3 Chilcompton
Eliza Beryman Daur 1 Chilcompton
from Phil Clements
Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon
1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos KilmersdonIn 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton
GR by Lee Robbins (10.2.2008)
Coal mine carter
In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton
GR by Lee Robbins (10.2.2008)
name from Lee, dob from BMD