Descendants of Frauncis GRIMSBY 1600 of Wells

Notes

29. Ann CARPENTER

email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.

1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in county

1851 census from Phil Clements
The 1851 Census - Stowey Parish - Res: Knighton Sutton - Piece 1938 - Folio 145 - Page 2 - Schedule 7
Robert Lyde Head M 50 Farmer 136 acres Stowey
Elizabeth Lyde Wife M 40 Litton
William Lyde Son 12 Scholar at home Litton
Mary Jane Lyde Daur 2 Litton
John Lyde Brother M 62 Carpenter Litton
Ann Carpenter Servant 16 East Harptree

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon

Job VRANCH

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.

Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).

Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

42. Emily VRANCH

Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.

43. Mary Annie VRANCH

Was there a twin with William Frederick V Vranch also born Q Dec 1874? Or is he related?

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

30. John CARPENTER

This John Carpenter may be already on the PAF as one of the other John's but more detail is needed to clarify the situation.

email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.

1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in county

1851 census
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som

1861 census from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - St John & St Benedict Parish, Glastonbury - Res: Chilkwell St - Piece 1667 - Folio 6 - Page 7 - Schedule 35
John Carpenter Head M 24 Plate Layer on Railway East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 26 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 2 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 3mos Glastonbury

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

The 1881 Census - Chew Magna Parish - Res: Copping Hill - Piece 2426 - Folio 28 - Page 24
John Carpenter Head M 44 General Labourer Harptree Emma Carpenter Wife M 45 Glastonbury Minnie Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Glastonbury George Carpenter Son 8 Scholar Glastonbury Frederic Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Glastonbury

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 30
72 Gwendoline Street
Jesse Carpenter, Head, 32, Coal miner, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
Margaret Carpenter, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Aberdare, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Son, 6, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Francis Carpenter, Son, 2, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Edward Carpenter, Son, 1, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Lodger, widower, 54, Coal Tipper, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Frederick Carpenter, Lodger, 17, Coal Miner, Somerset - Bishop Sutton, English speaker

1901 census from Phil Clements
The 1901 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish - Res: 52 Scott Row - Piece 5102 - Folio 63 - Page 33 - Schedule 190
John C Watts Head M 32 Reservist Bedminster English
Minnie Watts Wife M 32 Dressmaker Own acc Glastonbury English
Katie Watts Daur 5 Treherbert English
Herbert J Watts Son 3 Treherbert English
Annie Watts Daur 2 Treherbert English
Ivor C Watts Son 5mos Treherbert English
John Carpenter Boarder W 65 Labourer in Coal Mine Worker E Harptree English

Emma CLARK

1861 census from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - St John & St Benedict Parish, Glastonbury - Res: Chilkwell St - Piece 1667 - Folio 6 - Page 7 - Schedule 35
John Carpenter Head M 24 Plate Layer on Railway East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 26 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 2 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 3mos Glastonbury

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

The 1881 Census - Chew Magna Parish - Res: Copping Hill - Piece 2426 - Folio 28 - Page 24
John Carpenter Head M 44 General Labourer Harptree Emma Carpenter Wife M 45 Glastonbury Minnie Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Glastonbury George Carpenter Son 8 Scholar Glastonbury Frederic Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Glastonbury

Death is shown as before 1891 as John (& son Frederick) are in South Wales in 1891 as a widowerliving with his son Jesse

48. Edith CARPENTER

Possible BMD
Births Mar 1861
CARPENTER Edith Wells 5c 6_0

1861 census from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - St John & St Benedict Parish, Glastonbury - Res: Chilkwell St - Piece 1667 - Folio 6 - Page 7 - Schedule 35
John Carpenter Head M 24 Plate Layer on Railway East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 26 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 2 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 3mos Glastonbury

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

49. Lena CARPENTER

Possible BMD
Births Jun 1864
CARPENTER Lena Wells 5c 640

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

1881 census
28 Love St (Bear Hotel), Clifton, Gloucester, England
PRO RG11 2480/96 Page 9
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John RICH Head M Male 60 Stoke St Michaels, Somerset, England Licenced Victualler
Mary Ann RICH Wife M Female 49 London City of, London, Middlesex, England
Henry F. RICH Son U Male 19 Westbury On Trym, Gloucester, England Private Accountant
Ann HAIZLETON Boarder W Female 66 Bristol
Caroline A. ROWLAND Serv U Female 23 Bristol Bar Maid
Lena CARPENTER Serv U Female 18 Somerset, England Domestic Servant
Henry TOOGOOD Visitor U Male 28 Somerset, England Farmer

Having been found in Clifton in 1881 this is probably her marriage details
Marriages Mar 1882
Carpenter Lena Bristol 6a 93
THOMAS John Alfred Bristol 6a 93
VEALE Richard Bristol 6a 93

50. Alice CARPENTER

Possible BMD
Births Jun 1866
CARPENTER Alice Wells 5c 642

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

1881 census
16 Southville Pl, Bedminster, Somerset, England
PRO RG11 2451/5 Page 4
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Elizabeth TASKER Head W Female 59 Merthyr, Wales Owner Of Houses
Ann RODD Sister W Female 64 Swansea Annuitant
Alice CARPENTER Serv Female 14 Glastonbury, Wiltshire, England General Serv

52. George CARPENTER

The 1881 Census - Chew Magna Parish - Res: Copping Hill - Piece 2426 - Folio 28 - Page 24
John Carpenter Head M 44 General Labourer Harptree Emma Carpenter Wife M 45 Glastonbury Minnie Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Glastonbury George Carpenter Son 8 Scholar Glastonbury Frederic Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Glastonbury

34. Francis CARPENTER

BMD shows Francis reg. in Clutton District Qtr March 1847 not 46.

from Midsommer Norton (N. Somerset) near Radstock (coal minor). Traded
as a Butcher in the Rhondda. Believed to have moved to this address in
1895.

FC's birthday comes from Florence Ellen Carpenters birthday book.

New 1851 census data as 1891 census details show Francis born in East Harptree
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som

1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
RG 10/5383
Part of Middle Hamlet - Houses at Treherbert from Dunraven Inn to Libanus Chapel, Cwmsaerbren Farm House Cottages by Treherbert Station. Huts by Bute Merthyr Colliery and Tylaforest Farm house.
Schedule 221: Dumfries Street
Francis Carpenter Head Marr 24 Collier Somersetshire
Jane Carpenter Wife Marr 20 - Scotland
Ernest Carpenter Son 1 Treherbert
Thomas John Head Marr 24 Collier Pembrokeshire
Mary A John Wife Marr 22 Monmouthshire
Thomas John Son 2 Glamorganshire Treherbert
Sarah I John Daur 9mo Glamorganshire Treherbert
George Galloway Lodger UnMarr 24 Collier & local preacher Scotland [NLC - Methodist Circuit]

In 1875 Francis is listed in Warrals Directory of South Wales as a Butcher in Treherbert as is George GALLOWAY. Did he work with George? Did George try to take his son-in-law into his business or is this how he met Jane? He obviously didn't last as this is his only known entry into the local business directories.

The 1881 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish, Glam - Res: 72 Gwendoline St - Piece 5300 - Folio 110 - Pg 49
Francis Carpenter Head M 34 Collier Somerset, England
Jane Carpenter Wife M 29 Scotland
George Earnest Carpenter Son 11 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Charles Leo Carpenter Son 3 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Albert Joseph Carpenter Son 1 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Jessie Carpenter Boarder U 22 Collier Somerset, England (now known to be nephew)

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 34
94 Gwendoline Street
Francis Carpenter, Head, 44, Photographer’s Agent, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Jane Carpenter, Wife, 39, Scotland - Kinross, English speaker
George E Carpenter, Son, 21, Stoker coalminer, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Charles L Carpenter, Son, 13, Messenger port, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Florence Carpenter, Daughter, 8, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Mary M Carpenter, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Herbert (Hubert?) Vranch, nephew, 22, coalminer, Somerset - Radstock, English speaker

1901 census
RG13/5012 Fo: 81 Pg 19
100 Gwendoline Street
Francis Carpenter Head Married 53 Commision Agent East Harptree, Somerset, English speaker
Jane Carpenter wife Married 49 Dundee, Scotland, English speaker
Charles L Carpenter Son single 24 Blacksmith's Striker Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker
Florence H (should be E) Carpenter Daughter single 18 Dressmaker's apprentice Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker
Mary M Carpenter Daughter single 13 Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker

Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849

Norman CARPENTER says in his family tree that he was called Frank.

Jane GALLOWAY

On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.

4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)

1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
RG 10/5383
Part of Middle Hamlet - Houses at Treherbert from Dunraven Inn to Libanus Chapel, Cwmsaerbren Farm House Cottages by Treherbert Station. Huts by Bute Merthyr Colliery and Tylaforest Farm house.
Schedule 221: Dumfries Street
Francis Carpenter Head Marr 24 Collier Somersetshire
Jane Carpenter Wife Marr 20 - Scotland
Ernest Carpenter Son 1 Treherbert
Thomas John Head Marr 24 Collier Pembrokeshire
Mary A John Wife Marr 22 Monmouthshire
Thomas John Son 2 Glamorganshire Treherbert
Sarah I John Daur 9mo Glamorganshire Treherbert
George Galloway Lodger UnMarr 24 Collier & local preacher Scotland [NLC - Methodist Circuit]

The 1881 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish, Glam - Res: 72 Gwendoline St - Piece 5300 - Folio 110 - Pg 49
Francis Carpenter Head M 34 Collier Somerset, England
Jane Carpenter Wife M 29 Scotland
George Earnest Carpenter Son 11 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Charles Leo Carpenter Son 3 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Albert Joseph Carpenter Son 1 Scholar Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan
Jessie Carpenter Boarder U 22 Collier Somerset, England (now known to be nephew)

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 34
94 Gwendoline Street
Francis Carpenter, Head, 44, Photographer’s Agent, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Jane Carpenter, Wife, 39, Scotland - Kinross, English speaker
George E Carpenter, Son, 21, Stoker coalminer, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Charles L Carpenter, Son, 13, Messenger port, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Florence Carpenter, Daughter, 8, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Mary M Carpenter, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Herbert (Hubert?) Vranch, nephew, 22, coalminer, Somerset - Radstock, English speaker

1901 census
RG13/5012 Fo: 81 Pg 19
100 Gwendoline Street
Francis Carpenter Head Married 53 Commision Agent East Harptree, Somerset, English speaker
Jane Carpenter wife Married 49 Dundee, Scotland, English speaker
Charles L Carpenter Son single 24 Blacksmith's Striker Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker
Florence H (should be E) Carpenter Daughter single 18 Dressmaker's apprentice Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker
Mary M Carpenter Daughter single 13 Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, English speaker

KF revised the birth year to 1854 based on her age on interment and e-mail to/from Robyn Tester (16.11.2002)
RT believes the birth date is between 21.6.1853 and 20.6.1854. If this is correct and KF's Grandmother's birthday book of dates is correct (giving Jane's birthday as 27 Oct) then she would have been born on 27 Oct 1853.

1911 Census
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
CARPENTER, Jane Head Widow F 59 1852 Eating Housekeeper Kinross Shire
CARPENTER, Florence Ellen Daughter Single F 28 1883 Glam Rhondda Parish Treherbert
BIGGS, Mary Millicent Daughter Married F 24 1887 Glam Rhondda Parish Treherbert
BIGGS, Jestyn Son-In-Law Married M 30 1881 Hewer Of Coal Hewer Glam Cardiff
PRATT, Dorothy Niece F 14 1897 Rhondda Parish
BIGGS, Cyril Grandson M 0 1911 Glam Rhondda Treherbert Parish
RG number: RG14 Piece: 32332 Reference: RG14PN32332 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED4 SN283

Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Rhondda EnumerationDistrict: 4 Parish: Rhondda

Address: 100 Gwendoline Street Treherbert Rhondda County: Glamorganshire

59. Vera CARPENTER

Died as a baby (believed to be 6 months old)

email from John Bridgeman gives the year as 1880

36. Jane CARPENTER

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.

1861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East Harptree

This may be two people Anne & Jane where they both married Job Vranch.

The 1871 Census - Weston super Mare Parish - 12 Park Place - Piece 2459 - Folio 69 - Page 67 - Schedule 376
Musley B Saunders Head M 41 Curate of St John's Ireland
Aharia Saunders Wife M 44 Cape of Good Hope
Frances Smith Serv U 24 Cook Rockhampton, Dorset
Jane Carpenter Serv U 19 Housemaid East Harptree

Jane being a Carpenter is current supposition based on this being Hubert Vranch nephew of Francis Carpenter
The 1881 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 2429 - Folio 124 - Page 17 Job Branch Head M 38 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Jane Branch Wife M 28 East Harptree Edwin Branch Son 14 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Hubert Branch Son 12 Midsomer Norton George Branch Son 10 Kilmersdon Mary Branch Daur 6 Buckland Rosina Branch Daur 3 Buckland Arthur Branch Son 1 Midsomer Norton

Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

Job VRANCH

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.

Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).

Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

70. Arthur Henry VRANCH

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

71. Elizabeth VRANCH

Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.

If she is the daughter of Job and Jane then Albert Percy cannot be their son

72. Albert(sic) Percy VRANCH

Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.

If he is the son of Job and Jane then Elizabeth cannot be their daughter

74. Ernest Edgar VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

75. William Clifford VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

76. Walter VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset

37. Rosina CARPENTER

1861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East Harptree

email from John Bridgeman has dob as 7.2.1855
dob comes from Norman Carpenter's research from 60's & 70's

Rosina is related to author's grandmother Florence Ellen Carpenter and is listed in her birthdaybook as is Archibald

1881 Census
Dwelling: 40 Dunraven St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 90 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Archibald GALLOWAY M 25 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Collier Rosina GALLOWAY M 26 F Somerset, England

1901 census
38 Dunraven Street, Treherbert Archibald GALLOWAY 54 Coal-Hewer b Scotland, Kinross Rosina, wife 45 Dressmaker, own account, at home, b Somerset East Harg....[?] Maude dau 14 b Glam Treherbert

Archibald GALLOWAY

On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.

Last known at this address in 1905

4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)

1881 Census
Dwelling: 40 Dunraven St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 90 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Archibald GALLOWAY M 25 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Collier Rosina GALLOWAY M 26 F Somerset, England

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 42
38C Dunraven Street
Archibald Galloway, Head, 45, Check * at colliery mines, Scotland, English speaker
Rossina Galloway, Wife, 36, Dressmaker, Bristol, English speaker
Ida Galloway, Daughter, 9, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Maud Galloway, Daughter, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker

1901 census
38 Dunraven Street, Treherbert Archibald GALLOWAY 54 Coal-Hewer b Scotland, Kinross Rosina, wife 45 Dressmaker, own account, at home, b Somerset East Harptree Maude dau 14 b Glam Treherbert

77. Mary Maud GALLOWAY

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 42
38C Dunraven Street
Archibald Galloway, Head, 45, Check * at colliery mines, Scotland, English speaker
Rossina Galloway, Wife, 36, Dressmaker, Bristol, English speaker
Ida Galloway, Daughter, 9, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Maud Galloway, Daughter, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker

1901 census
38 Dunraven Street, Treherbert Archibald GALLOWAY 54 Coal-Hewer b Scotland, Kinross Rosina, wife 45 Dressmaker, own account, at home, b Somerset East Harg....[?] Maude dau 14 b Glam Treherbert

78. Rachel Ida GALLOWAY

Full name taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 42
38C Dunraven Street
Archibald Galloway, Head, 45, Check * at colliery mines, Scotland, English speaker
Rossina Galloway, Wife, 36, Dressmaker, Bristol, English speaker
Ida Galloway, Daughter, 9, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Maud Galloway, Daughter, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker