1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 30
72 Gwendoline Street
Jesse Carpenter, Head, 32, Coal miner, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
Margaret Carpenter, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Aberdare, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Son, 6, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Francis Carpenter, Son, 2, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Edward Carpenter, Son, 1, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Lodger, widower, 54, Coal Tipper, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Frederick Carpenter, Lodger, 17, Coal Miner, Somerset - Bishop Sutton, English speaker1901 census
Ystradyfodwg District 8, Glamorgan
RG 13/5012 Page 5
Schedule 30 7 Ynyswen Terrace
Jesse CARPENTER Head M 42 Coal Hewer below ground Glastonbury, Somerset English
Margaret CARPENTER Wife M 39 - Aberdarem Glamorgan Billingual
John A CARPENTER Son S 15 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Edward S CARPENTER Son S 11 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Arthur L CARPENTER Son S 5 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
30.9.2007 email from
Byron & Caroline Scott
1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 30
72 Gwendoline Street
Jesse Carpenter, Head, 32, Coal miner, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
Margaret Carpenter, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Aberdare, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Son, 6, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Francis Carpenter, Son, 2, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Edward Carpenter, Son, 1, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Lodger, widower, 54, Coal Tipper, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Frederick Carpenter, Lodger, 17, Coal Miner, Somerset - Bishop Sutton, English speaker1901 census
Ystradyfodwg District 8, Glamorgan
RG 13/5012 Page 5
Schedule 30 7 Ynyswen Terrace
Jesse CARPENTER Head M 42 Coal Hewer below ground Glastonbury, Somerset English
Margaret CARPENTER Wife M 39 - Aberdarem Glamorgan Billingual
John A CARPENTER Son S 15 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Edward S CARPENTER Son S 11 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Arthur L CARPENTER Son S 5 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Not convinced that Margaret is the daughter of this William. Possible Granddaughter? There are William's born in the right time and general area that could be her father and son of other William.
1901 census
Ystradyfodwg District 8, Glamorgan
RG 13/5012 Page 5
Schedule 30 7 Ynyswen Terrace
Jesse CARPENTER Head M 42 Coal Hewer below ground Glastonbury, Somerset English
Margaret CARPENTER Wife M 39 - Aberdarem Glamorgan Billingual
John A CARPENTER Son S 15 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Edward S CARPENTER Son S 11 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Arthur L CARPENTER Son S 5 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
111. Emma Jane CARPENTER
gave child as Spinster. Child's Interment was signed by Fred Carpenter and child was buried with Frederick Charles (10681) which was also signed by Fred Charles and so must be related. Doc also says child is grandchild of owner. Owner is Fred as 10681 shows Fred as owner.
FreeBMD has Emma Jane married Qtr Jun 1890
District Pontypridd Vol 11a Pg 582
Possible spouse is
Henry Wilson or John Evans
inserted from Treorchy Cemetery Interment document 32238. This shows address as 36 Brynhyfryd Place, Treorchy. This is the same address as Fred at the same time. Looking at ages, the current presumption is that Charles Henry is son.
Second Wife of Leslie.
Born Biggs
First Wife of David Charles Frater and mother of Clive.
married at age of 23 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 (parish of Pembrey)
married first wife at age of 26 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 parish
of Pembrey
married Joyce at age of 33 on 11/7/1950 at Registry Office, LlanelliHe was in the army during the war and was part of the forces that fought in St Malo in France during WWII. He was also one of the soldiers who were charged with escorting "aliens" on the Arandora Star. This ship was sunk on July 2nd 1940. It took place north- west of Malin Head when the one-time flag ship of the Blue Star Line, the Arandora Star, was torpedoed and sank, with the loss of 682 lives out of a total of 1,571 on board.
The ship was torpedoed by submarine U47 captained by Kapitaanleutnan Gunther Prien. This disaster affected my father far more than he was willing to say. I remember him talking about it only the once when he spoke of having to go around cutting the floating the buoys of dead soldiers and others so that the bodies would sink to a grave rather than be floating food for the fish. He had a dislike of the sea ever since. He spoke of the sadness of what they had to do in the rounding up of many people with links to Italy and Germany for no other reason than that. They were links. But during that time, in war, they had no way of knowing who may be sympathisers with the enemy and who were not. The regret was more because he knew Italain and and Italian descent people, and whilst he couldn't believe that they were anything but loyal to the country they lived in, he undestood the orders that were given. He also spoke of having to have "words" with some of the way they spoke to the "aliens." He was still a Sergeant at that time (one of many - as "bing one of the boys" he also kept being demoted!!) and so could comment to the soldiers of lower rank.
I believe that survivors were brought ashore in Scotland (possibly Greenock on the Clyde). Photos were taken which were then used in the press. My father used to boast that this was the one and only time he was on the front page of a national newspaper. My mother told me that the first the family knew about where my father was, was when they saw his picture in the newspaper. This paper was lost over the years and I have yet to locate a copy of it.Buried at Llandyry Church Trimsaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater