95. John MYLES
Terry Stewart - email - 4.9.2008
occupation: Wooden chair maker
He was the informant on his mother's Death Certificate, in 1924.
Terry Stewart - email - 4.9.2008
occupation: domestic servant
180. George Cumming MYLES
Terry Stewart - email - 4.9.2008
Seved on board HMS Patroclus. Service number P/MX64323. Commeorated on Portsmouth Naval Memorial (Panel3 column 10)
The Patroclus was sunk by a torpedo from U99, captained by the greatest of all U-boat captains Otto Kretshmer, off the coast of Northern Ireland. U99 had torpedoed SS Casanare. The Patroclus, an armed merchantman went on the attack dropping depth charges. The captain of the Patroclus decided, against advice from his Executive Officer, to stop and pick up survivors, which was against Admiralty orders. The U99 attacked and after firing two torpedoes at the Patroclus he broke off the attack as he was under attack from a Sunderland flying boat. He dived and when he levelled off he found the Patroclus still afloat. The flying boat had gone and so he surfaced and sunk the Patroclus with another 3 torpedoes. 76 were killed and there were 230 survivors.
96. Thomas MYLES
Terry Stewart - email - 4.9.2008
Robert was the twin of Thomas. Robert was the younger of the two being born at 5.25 am.
Occupation: Joiner (Journeyman)
Terry Stewart - email - 4.9.2008
occupation: Housekeeper
113. Ellen FRATER
Birth Index entry
Frater Ellen B 1870 March Islington 1b 229FreeBMD Marriage entry.
Frater Ellen M 1891 Sept Bethnal Green 1c 376 James Wilkins1871 census
27 Blundell Street (one of 4 families)
RG10/267 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Folio: 45 Page: 16
Household schedule number: 78
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Oliver Frater 19 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Islington St Andrew London Painter
Ellen Frater 19 Shamford Hill, Yorkshire, England Wife Islington St Andrew London
Ellen Frater 1 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Andrew London1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: SonEllen is at both entries?
1891 census District of Islington
87 Georges Road
Ellen Frater Head Single 21 Laundress Wash employed born Islington
James FRATER Son Single 1 born Islington1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London1901 census
Name Age Est Birth Relation Gender Born
James Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Head Male Holling Hill, London, England
Ellen Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Wife Female Islington, London, England
James Wilkins 10 abt 1891 Son Male Islington, London, England
Nellie Wilkins 8 abt 1893 Daughter James Ellen Female Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Household schedule number: 70
name of husband came from Dorrell. Marriage ref from BMD Fiche
Frater Ellen M 1891 Sept Bethnal Green 1c 376 James WilkinsLiving in Bethnal Green at the time of marriage and as a Painter. Did he work with Ellen's father Oliver?
James's father is shown as a Pipemaker.1901 census
Name Age Est Birth Relation Gender Born
James Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Head Male Holling Hill, London, England
Ellen Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Wife Female Islington, London, England
James Wilkins 10 abt 1891 Son Male Islington, London, England
Nellie Wilkins 8 abt 1893 Daughter James Ellen Female Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Household schedule number: 70
BMD
Births Jun 1893
Wilkins Nellie Elizabeth Islington 1b 4271901 census
Name Age Est Birth Relation Gender Born
James Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Head Male Holling Hill, London, England
Ellen Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Wife Female Islington, London, England
James Wilkins 10 abt 1891 Son Male Islington, London, England
Nellie Wilkins 8 abt 1893 Daughter James Ellen Female Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Household schedule number: 70
115. William FRATER
document from Sheila Saunders shows that William was known as Tom
Notes from KF
A William Frater has been found in:
Post Office London County Suburbs Directory, 1908. [Part 1: Street, Commercial, & Trades Directories]
Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park (N), [Islington] Fonthill Road, Seven Sisters Road to Stroud Green Road
2. Frater, Wm House decorator
Also on page 471 at 2 Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park, LondonAccording to the 1881 census there is only one William FRATER born about 1874 and he is this one
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonGiven the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in IslingtonSurname taken from Free BMD marriage pages. Only 1 William & Ada married in Islington in this time frame.
186. Ada FRATER
Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
116. George FRATER
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonBirth Register Index details
Frater George B 1876 Sept Islington ? ?Text transcribed from George's army discharge papers:
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Private George FRATER discharge papers show
583599 Labour Corps
Transfer to the reserve on 1st June 1919
living at 140 Elmore Road, IslingtonConduct sheet shows he attested 11/12/1915 Whitehall Street
Army form 103 was extracted 2/3/1920 and sent to officer in charge of records Nottingham
Army Form B103 Casualty Form - Active Service
Regimental number: 8466 Rank: Private Name: Frater George
Enlisted (a): 15/9/1916 Terms of servcie (a): Service reckons from (a) 15/9/1016
Date of promotion to present rank: - Date of appointment to lance rank: - Numerical position on roll of NCOs: -
Extended: - Re-engaged: - Qualification (b): -Southampton 3 Jan 1917
Havre 4 Jan 1917
5 Jan 1917 YIBD Arrives No 7 TREY Base Dept, Havre 4 Jan 1917
4 Feb 1917 YIBD To 15th Royal Irish Rifles 4 Feb 1917. NR.
22 Feb 1917 No 2 Reg Transferred to t8th (TF) Res Br Lon Rgt 22 Feb 1917
Inf Dic & Posted to 15th Ryl Irish Rifles
A.O. 204 & ACI 1499 of 1916 New No 44403
Auth DA G CR 39686/7
O i/c Capt for Terr Infy Southern section
GHQ 3rd Echelon
27 4/8 (unread) Leave Field 4/19.2.18 Roll
Ditto Sick to 7.11 13 5/18 B(unread)
15ccs adm Arthritis Field 13 5/18 6 A T 14 5/18 E & 1647
32S Hosp adm myalgia Field 13 5/18 HA (unread number)
(unread) adm ? Hosp Boulogne (unread) (unread)
106a Dept Dis to Labour Corps Base Dept Henriville 5.6.18 HA24517Next of kin Wife E. Frater, 60 Orpingly Road, Holloway
o/o Lab Corps
Transfd to 73 Labour Company
with effect from 11 4/18
Benefit of the service +c
24 6/18 L.C Rgre No 583599 G Bramwell Capt Lieut for o i/c Inf Sec No 2
O C Coy Joined Coy Field 11.6.18
(below this is difficult to read but here are bits that I can)
Posted to 26 * *.*.19
Auth DAG CRN 762849876
* To * R (10a)
14 * 19 Demob 4 * 19
(signature and who o i/c was but unreadable)Service and Casualty Form
Rank: Private
Surname: Frater
Christian name: George
Army Form: AFB2512
British:
Year of Birth: 1876Labour Corps 583599
(the word MEDAL is stamped on the card)Service reckons from 11.12.15
Trade: Dealer
MarriedNext of Kin: (wife) Emily Frater 65 Orpingley Road, Holloway
Attested 11.12.15
To Army Res 12.12.15
mob 13. 9.16
3/1 Lon Regt Posted Pte 14. 9.16
Royal I Rifles 15 Transferred Pte 20. 2.17
Lab Corps Transferred Pte 11. 4.18
12 Coy
PoW Coy 265 Posted Pte 3. 1.19
Character
docs to Chelsea(There is a stamp whose headings cannot be read but the hand written comments show)
1.6.19
Nottingham
140 Elmore Street, Islington, London(Down the right hand side is written)
Home 11.12.15 to 2.1.17
France 3.1.17 to 2.5.19 2 yrs 120
Home 3.5.19He was awarded a £5 supplementary gratuity
Next award refers to Rheumatism and that he is awarded 5/6 over 26 wks C from 2.6.19
Number of childredn and allowance granted is 3/2 for three
signed by J H Underhill 2.6.19
The Children are named but difficult to read
George O 19.10.11
Charles * 18.5.13
* 18.7.15Renewal award
Pension awarded for children expiring 3.2.20Medical Report on discharge
1 Unit and Corps: 256th Labour
2 & 3 Regtl No: 593599 Rank: Pte
4 Name: Frater, George
5 Age last B'day: 44
6 Posted for duty on 13.9.1916 at Salisbury Plain
7 (can't read)
8 not an injury
9 N/A
10 nil (disability)
12: place of origin of disability: France
13: no documenting evidence of having been in hospital. States that he was in Hospital for a * in the war of 1917. He *Cheltenham Terrace
(interesting that his discharge papers say that nothing his wrong with him, but later gets pension)
Later in the discharge papers are earlier medical documents that state that illness of Rhumatism & cram was caused by in* is shell holes March 1918
and hospitals given are No 1 CCS & No. 10 Con Camp.
Also othe medical shows diagnosis of Rheumatism
with a present condition of:
Heart & Lungs show no notable physical signs of lision. Left knee somewhat stiff and slight * on movement.Date and location of this medical cannot be read.
Medical History document shows
Born Holloway, Middx
39 at time of record
Trade Clothing Dealer
Height 5ft 3 3/4
weight 126 lbs
Chest: 34 1/2
Range of expansion 2 1/2
Physical development Good
Vaccination marks: 4 when vaccinated: Infancy(says something in slight defacts but cannot read it)
Relisted Central London Recruiting Depot, Whitehall, SW 13 Sep 1916
Joined on enlist: 1st London Regt
then Royal Isish Rifles
then Labour Corp
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117. James FRATER
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London1901 census
Frater James 22 Head Builder Labourer Holloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Louisa 20 Wife Halborn, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Matilda 6 M Daughter Halloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.48Register of Birth details
Frater James B 1878 Sept Islington 1b 326b
1901 census
Frater James 22 Head Builder Labourer Holloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Louisa 20 Wife Halborn, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Matilda 6 M Daughter Halloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.48
1901 census
Frater James 22 Head Builder Labourer Holloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Louisa 20 Wife Halborn, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.47
Frater Elizabeth Matilda 6 M Daughter Halloway, London No 11 Palmerston Road, Islington, London RG13/0169/~F23 CD14 RG13-0169.pdf p.48
1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonKF 29.3.03
Found birth details on Fiche. All other Islington births at this time are of Oliver & Ellen so supposition is that so is this childA Leonard C died in Edmonton district in 1940. Is the the same Leonard C?
Frater Leonard C D 1940 Sept Edmonton 3a 1183 55 1885Military records from National Archives taken 9.8.2007
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Enrollment Papers
(front page dammed on left and right)
Charles Leonard FRATER Corps: Roemont
Name: Leonard Charles *
Address: 4 Osman Road, Tottenham
British: Yes
Age: 33 yrs 7 months
Trade: Shop Assistant
Married: Yes
Served in any branch: no
(next is a declation signed by L C Frater - very similar hand writing to my dad D C Frater)Page 2
Name: Leonard Charles FRATER
Age: 33 yrs 7mths Height (is faint but looks like) 5 ft 3
Next of Kin
Mrs Herriott Frater 4 Osman Road, Tottenham Relationship: Wife
Particulars:
Who: Herriott Frater (spinster)
Where: St Marks Church, Islington, London
Present Address: 4 Osman St, Tottenham
26/12/1906(mentions a campaign but cannot make out the text)
British War Medals - Victory MedalPage 3 - ID Papers
Frater Leonard Charles
234322 Pte
Dispersal Unit Crystal Palace 12 Oct 1918
Record Office: Woolwich *yard, upper * st
Address of pay: 37 Durham Rd, Finsbury Park
Theatre of War: France
Born in Year: 1882 (BMD fiche actually shows 1885?)
Medical category: B
Specialist qualification: nillPage 4
Disability doc to faint to readPage 5 Medical History
Leonard Charles Frater
Parish: Islington County: Middlesex
done 3rd July (year is in damaged section)
Age: 33 yrs 7 mths
Occupation: Shop Assistance
Height: 5 feet 3 1/2 inches
Weight: 125 lbs
Chest girth: 33 1/2 inches
expansion: 1 1/2 inches
physical development: good
Gey Eyes
Brown hair
vaccinated as infant
Synovitis left (possibly knee) stiff
cannot straighten leg yet or bend muchEnlisted at: Mill Hill on 3rd August 1916
Joined on Enlistment Roemounts Asc (cannot read regtl number)Page 7
copy of enrollment doc page 1Page 8
copy of enrollment doc page 2Page 9
Shows Posted date but writing is to faintPage 10
Conduct Sheet
Leonard Charles Frater
no infoPage 11
(don't know what the page is for too damaged but can make out part of birth date 7 July)Page 12
Memorandum to Paymaster. (Details are very faint)Page 13
Not to Paymaster 107 Upper Thames Street, ECWill you please inform me of the present address of (damaged area) Frater wife of number 234322 Pte Frater L C Army Service Corps, or the Post Office from which Separation Allowance is being issued.
A letter addressed by me to 4 Osman Road, Tottenham has been returned marked Gone away.
Signed 16 Feb 1917Page 14
no detailsPage 15
Pay comments of dates and leave dates and traced by census dates. Quite faint but can be just made outPage 16
Casualty Form - Active Services
Regtl No: Rx/41 234322 Rank: Private Name: Frater Leonard Charles
Enlisted: 30/8/16 Terms of Service D of W Service reckons from 30/8/16Embarked Southampton 13-10-16
Disembarked Havre 14-10-16
Per SS "Arundel"
To No.2 Base Remount
Depot. *
Posted to No. * Remount
Depot. 15-10-167/ 9/17 W.O. Adm 83 G.R. (Co* * R) 21. 8.17 HA13267
7/ 9/17 W.O. To 1 Con Depot ex 83 GR 28. 8.17 HA 13383
18/ 9/17 W.O. To 3 Red Camp "Fit" ex 1 Con Depot 2. 9.17 HA 13630
HBRW Rejoined from GR *
Page 17
(mainly damaged but can ee)
Transferred to Z army
reserve on Demobilization
date 9-11-1919
*
Home address
37 Durham Road
Finsbury Park
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1891 census
District 7 Hornsey Middlesex
RG 12/1060 Page 16
Schedule 90 1 Brook Road
Alfred F CROSSMAN Head M 32 Railway Labourer Hornsey Middlesex
Harriet CROSSMAN Wife M 28 - Brighton Sussex
Harriet M CROSSMAN Daur 6 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
Alfred G CROSSMAN Son 3 - Hornsey, Middlesex
Albert CROSSMAN Son 10m - Hornsey, Middlesex
123. Edward FRATER
died age 68
The story of Edward Frater is that he is the son of Oliver Frater. The story passed to KF from his father DCF is that Edward was born in London of a Scottish Family. The family was split up when he was young and EF went "into care". The story from Edward Frater (the son of this Edward Frater) is that Edward was born in Scotland, came to London with his family when young. The parents died and Edward went into care.. The actual birth and tracing of Edward's birth, care and movement to Wales is now proven and documented from records in London & Leicester.Birth certificate of Edward Frater is shown as son of Oliver Frater & Ellen Frater, formerly BUTLER, Father's occupation: House Painter, signature was X the mark of Ellen Frater Mother, 9 Andover Gardens, Islington. Signed 23 December 1889, Registrar: C R Butcher
Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references in The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in the WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos. 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th.
Births Register Index
Frater Edward B 1889 Dec Islington 1b 253Buried at Llandyry Church Trimaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London1901 census
Frater Edward 11 Inmate Of Desford Industrial School Gardener's Labourer London Desford Industrial School Certified Industrial Ratby Leicestershire, Ibstock RG13/2967/~F139 CD2 R_2967.pdf p.2751911 census
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
imageTHOMAS, John Head Married M 46 1865 Farmer Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
THOMAS, Lydia Wife Married
6 years F 39 1872 Carmarthen Ammanford VIEW
THOMAS, Lizzie Ann Daughter F 5 1906 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
THOMAS, Thomas J Son M 3 1908 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
THOMAS, Jenny Daughter F 2 1909 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
THOMAS, Maggie Daughter F 1 1910 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
DAVIES, Nellie Nurse Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Carmarthen Llangumor VIEW
FRATER, Edward Servant Single M 22 1889 Labourer London HollowayVIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33009 Reference:
RG14PN33009 RG78PN1892 RD599 SD1 ED16 SN5Registration District:
Carmarthen Sub District:
Llangendeirne EnumerationDistrict:
16 Parish:
LlangendeirneAddress:
Credwalter (should be coedwalterfawr) Fawr Llangendeirne Kidwelly County:
Carmarthenshire
1901 census re: RG13/5110 Folio 28 Pg 2
Schedule 6 - Rhydlydan - 2 rooms
David Lewis Head, married 28 Coal Hewer Welsh speaker
Phoebe Lewis wife, married 31 Welsh speaker
Elizabeth Lewis daughter, single 7 Welsh speaker
Margaret Lewis daughter, single 2 Welsh speakerBuried at Llandyry Chuch Trimsaran - resided at 51 Garden Suburbs Trimsaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
3 possibles in 1911 census
1:
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where BornEVANS, Thomas Head Married M 75 1836 Farmer Carmarthen LlangelerVIEW
EVANS, Rachel Wife Married
50 years F 72 1839 Carmarthen Llanstephen VIEW
EVANS, Daniel Son Married M 29 1882 Farmer's Son Working On FarmCarmarthen Llangedeirne VIEW
EVANS, Mary Ann Daughter In Law Married
2 years F 24 1887 Glamorgan Aberdare VIEW
EVANS, Alwyn Thomas Grandson M 1 1910 Carmarthen LlangendeirneVIEW
EVANS, Mary Jane Granddaughter F 11 1900 School Carmarthen Tumble VIEW
REES, Gwilym Servant Single M 18 1893 Teamster On Farm Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
THOMAS, Mary Dorothy Servant Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
LEWIS, Elizabeth Servant Single F 16 1895 General Farm DomesticCarmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
TAYLOR, William Servant Single F 16 1895 Cowboy London VIEW
WORTH, George Servant Single M 14 1897 Cowboy Leicester EnglandVIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33006 Reference:
RG14PN33006 RG78PN1892 RD599 SD1 ED13 SN37Registration District: Carmarthen Sub District: Llangendeirne EnumerationDistrict:
13 Parish: LlangendeirneAddress: Bryn Llanddarog Carmarthen County: Carmarthenshire
2:
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where BornTHOMAS, Gwilyn Head Married M 27 1884 Farmer Carmarthen Llangunnor VIEW
THOMAS, Sarah May Wife Married
3 years F 23 1888 Carmarthen Llangunnor VIEW
THOMAS, Irene May Daughter F 2 1909 Carmarthen Llangunnor VIEW
LEWIS, Elizabeth Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 33015 Reference: RG14PN33015 RG78PN1892 RD599 SD1 ED22 SN13Registration District: Carmarthen Sub District: Llangendeirne EnumerationDistrict:
22 Parish: LlangunnorAddress: Plasymynydd Llangunnor Carmarthen County:
Carmarthenshire3:
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where BornJONES, James Head Married M 30 1881 Farmer Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
JONES, Elizabeth Wife Married
1 years F 31 1880 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
JONES, Anne Margaretta Daughter F 0 1911 Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
REES, Benjamin Servant Single M 18 1893 Farm Servant Carmarthen Llanarthney VIEW
HARDWEEK, Charles Servant Single M 26 1885 Farm Servant Liverpool VIEW
LEWIS, Elizabeth Servant Single F 18 1893 Servant Domestic Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
REES, Edith Servant Single F 15 1896 General Servant Carmarthen Llangendeirne VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 33006 Reference: RG14PN33006 RG78PN1892 RD599 SD1 ED13 SN39Registration District: Carmarthen Sub District:
Llangendeirne EnumerationDistrict:
13 Parish: LlangendeirneAddress: Coedadam Llangendeirne Kidwelly County: Carmarthenshire
202. Leonard FRATER
Fusilier 14200801 6th Bn., Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
died Monday, 29th November 1943 Age 20 during Second World War in Italian offensive
Cemetery: SANGRO RIVER WAR CEMETERY, Italy
Grave Reference: VIII. E. 12.
Location: The Sangro River War Cemetery lies in the Contrada Sentinelle in the Commune of Torino di Sangro, Province of Chieti. Take the autostrada A14 exit at Val di Sangro. At about 2.5 kilometres from the exit turn right onto the SS16, Pescara to Vasto road, for nearly 2 kilometres. There is then a sharp right turn up to cemetery. Within the cemetery will be found the Sangro River Cremation Memorial. This is one of three memorials erected in Italy to officers and men of the Indian Army who were cremated - the other two cremation memorials are in Forli Indian Army War Cemetery and Rimini Gurkha War Cemetery. Historical Information: The site of Sangro River War Cemetery was selected by the 5th Corps. Into it were concentrated the graves of men who lost their lives in the fierce fighting on the Adriatic sector of the front in November-December 1943, and during the subsequent static period there. The 8th Indian Division was on this sector during these months; the 4th Indian Division arrived in January 1944, and the 10th Indian Division in April 1944. There are therefore many muslim burials in the cemetery, in plots VI, VII, XIII and XVIII; and the cemetery contains one of the three cremation memorials in Italy (the others being in Forli Indian Army War Cemetery and in Rimini Gurkha War Cemetery). The New Zealand Division also suffered heavily in the fighting for and beyond the Sangro River, and many of their graves are here. The Canadians have their own cemetery not far off, at Moro River. Sangro River War Cemetery contains, besides the graves of those who died in battle or of wounds, those of quite a number of British prisoners of war who escaped and died either of exposure or otherwise while trying to reach the British lines. There are now 2,500, 1939-45 war casualties commemorated in this site. Of these, nearly 100 are unidentified.Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
206. Arthur Ernest FRATER
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
125. Emily Rebecca FRATER
Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references in The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in the WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos. 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th.
1901 census RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125
Islington St. Marks 4 Andover Gardens
Oliver Frater Head married 49 House Painter b: North Islington, London
Ellen Frater wife married 49 b: North Islington, London
Oliver Frater son single 20 Bricklayer's labourer b: North Islington, London
Elizabeth Frater daughter single 18 b: North Islington, London
Robert Frater son single 14 b: North Islington, London
Frederick Frater son single 8 b: North Islington, London
Emily Frater daughter single 6 b: North Islington, LondonBirths Register Index reference
Frater Emily Rebecca B 1894 Sept Islington 1b 180email from Karen Warren (granddaughter of Emily Rebecca Frater)
had 11 children and married George Claydon Reed
email from Karen Warren (granddaughter)
212. George REED
email from Karen Warren (granddaughter of Emily Rebecca Frater)
died at birth
127. Roma CATALANI
email from Susanne 19.1.2008
followed on to Australia with Stanley & Nancy after Michael had emmigratedf to Australia from London on a ship called the 'Obwestry' on 5th July 1911. They arrived in Brisbane on 27th August 1911. Arthur and Roma lived in Adelaide where they owned a shop. I believe Arthur was a harsh man. I never saw him.1901 census
Wood Green District 73 Middlesex
RG13/1257 Page 22
21 Moselle Avenue
Michael CATALANI Head M 45 Plasterers Moulder Italy (Italian subject)
Eliza CATALANI Wife M 45 - Islington
Dante CATALANI Son S 6 - Islington
Roma CATALANI Daur S 16 Silk Silk Shirt/Tie maker Islington
May CATALANI Daur S 9 - Islington
email from Suzanne descendent of Roma CATALANI 18.1.2008
emmigrated to Australia Arthur and Roma lived in Adelaide where they owned a shop. I believe Arthur was a harsh man. I never saw him.
131. William James FRATER
Birth dates given by Leicester these are closest entries on birth index
Frater William James B 1882 March Pancras 1b 112
Frater William James B 1880 June Holborn 1b 773based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added
all detailsBMD Marriage ref: Marriages Qtr Jun 1902
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Frater William James Holborn 1b 1003
POWELL Sarah Caroline Holborn 1b 1003Dwelling 10 North Street Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0355 / 47 Page Number 14
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Jane FOORD Wife (Head) M Female 58 London, Middlesex, England Nurse
John D. FOORD Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Polisher
Frances A. FOORD Daur U Female 24 London, Middlesex, England Machinist
Ellen E. FRATER Daur M Female 19 London, Middlesex, England Dress Maker
Willie FRATER Gran Son U Male 11m London, Middlesex, England
Mary PHILLIPS Relative M Female 51 London, Middlesex, England
Henry F. PHILLIPS Relative U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
email from Patrick Davies 4.8.2007
The Mary Phillips "relative" was born MARY CHARLOTTE COWCHER, sister of JANE and GEORGE WILLIAM. Henry Phillips was her son
Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown.
death data show him a retired French Polisher28 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.1891 census
11 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell
William Frater Head 33 Type Founderer Pancras, London
Ellen Frater Wife 31 Clerkenwell
William Frater Son 10 Clerkenwell
Charles Frater Son 7 Islington
Lily Frater Daughter 2 Clerkenwell
Alice Frater Daughter 5 mths ClerkenwellThis is a guess as I cannot find and marriage between Jane and a DAVISON but could this be Jane (Sister of Elizabeth Ellen) with William son of Elizabeth Ellen?
1901 census
Davison Jane 56 Head -, London 94 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell, London RG13/0251/~F114 CD20 RG13-0251.pdf p.225
Davison Lily 21 Daughter Dress Maker St Pancras, - 94 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell, London RG13/0251/~F114 CD20 RG13-0251.pdf p.225
Alfred 19 Son Pianoforte Polisher Soho, - 94 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell, London RG13/0251/~F114 CD20 RG13-0251.pdf p.225
Frater William 20 Nephew Pentonville, - 94 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell, London RG13/0251/~F114 CD20 RG13-0251.pdf p.225
based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added
all detailsBMD Marriage ref:
Frater William James M 1902 June Holborn 1b 100328 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.
228. Alexander FRATER
28 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.
229. Malcolm FRATER
28 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.
(viv 1983). Had Downs Syndrome.